thats pain in teh ass

Trader = selfequip 6x belt at level 35^^

i have a 6X belt on at lvl 20 and i am a agent FP trader

IS this mission rollable?? Ive spent aages at the terms trying to roll this, would like to know if its rollable....dyna or boss drop.

it is rollable takes you 5 mins

>>deadly @ 2005-02-18 17:56
>>i have a 6X belt on at lvl 20 and i am a agent FP trader

You're too funny. How did you mange to get 781/709 psychological modifications and sensory improvement at lvl 20? Muahahahaha

132 from wrangle....140 from mochams... 20 exp... NS+gen= about 7 pts trickledown...ql 100 imps about 75 on both (as the shiny is in same place)... 76 base = 350 all in total pfft! i h8 liars ;p

pfft forgot drains too...well + 120 wont save u ^^

I only got guardian belt ( from totw) and another 5 NCU cristals (30 NCU) each by using not this nano .. but frequent customer nano .. U can`t blitz this nano at level 20 .. or perhaps with exploit u can ..

Sooo many ppl who can't read...

At which point Deadly said he casted THIS nano?

Nowhere, because...

1.)...you have no chance to store NCU-costs about 200 for all Mochis, Wrangle and Drains with lvl 20 (first fixer-buff starts at lvl 25).

2.)...this nano won`t help you a bit to equip any belt. It uses 51 NCU and lasts for 60 seconds...you already need 10 secondes to dequip each NCU and another 70 seconds to dequip your old belt. So you are fu**ed up with your very own 8 NCU and maybe some extra from Carbonum Armor...but you need at minimum 51 NCU to recast Mogul, `cause it`s already gone.

Cookiedent, you can use Blackmane's belt (the one you get on the newbie island). It takes only 20 seconds for it to dequip.

8 NCU to start with. CoH collar = 30 NCU. Subway NCU ring = 20 more NCU. NCU armor = 10-15(?). So NCU to cast 1 nano is never a problem :o

you can recast it once set, even if you have less ncu than is needed to cast it initially. so just have a trader cast it on u, and start swapping belts and ncu, and have him recast if every 30 seconds. problem solved. and i just tried this, so it works.

sure you did - it's self-only, so I'd like to know how the trader could cast it on you.

eeer i mean to post one lower one :D phewt phewt and hes 25 :S

and err a thing called old glitch where the token board did not have a req on it and you could term xp at any lvl token board adds 200 blah

not that i have it :D

castin trading mogal at lvl 35 is theroetically impossible, so i hardly beleiev u were able to equip it even with moochies.

Cookiedent said:
this nano won`t help you a bit to equip any belt. It uses 51 NCU and lasts for 60 seconds...you already need 10 secondes to dequip each NCU and another 70 seconds to dequip your old belt. So you are fu**ed up with your very own 8 NCU and maybe some extra from Carbonum Armor...but you need at minimum 51 NCU to recast Mogul, `cause it`s already gone.


Its posible to svitch belt u just pick a unequiped belt and put it in over the already equiped one and when the buff run out the belt will still be put in without it :P..

And you don't need NCU to recast a nano thats already running.

perhaps with the coh neck slot item (+30 ncus), some carb armor, and a fixer ncu buff you'd be able to use this to equip a new belt.

aye i agree with Moniker easy to get 51 ncu without a belt on if u get it all with the belt to start with. compufreek ripped by Moniker!

If you get the NCU for PM, TS mochis, wrangle and the drains you can cast the second highest drains without AIarmor at 25, then kill the TS and get SI mochis..now you can cast Trading Mogul..theoretically

ok lil heads up... it is possible to cast this nano at lvl 21 with some low ql arithmetic, tower, org contract, silo and 110 implants. what u need it sum1 to keep u constantly 132 wrangled while u ladder up drains. oh and btw about belt.. u can get the 6x belt on with the 160 buff which can be done with wrangle and drains easily and this is used to equip phat ncu.
sorry for misinformation, didnt consider so severe twinking b4 i did it :p

err lvl 25 that is...

I've used Bulk Trader to equip a 6-slot while having 5 NCU equiped when I cast. You just run it, unequip NCU, and then right-click unequipped belt. Even if the nano runs out 2 sec later, you've got it started and 70 secs later, you've got the belt on.
As far as getting the skills to run THIS nano an lvl <35, even if you COULD get your skills that high at such a low lvl, you would need a 6-slot already equiped with 6 NCU mems just to have everything you'd need running. Just get a Guardian Circuit Board and be happy.

Cookiedent @ 2005-04-03 00:49

2.)...this nano won`t help you a bit to equip any belt. It uses 51 NCU and lasts for 60 seconds...you already need 10 secondes to dequip each NCU and another 70 seconds to dequip your old belt. So you are fu**ed up with your very own 8 NCU and maybe some extra from Carbonum Armor...but you need at minimum 51 NCU to recast Mogul, `cause it`s already gone.

Mogul doesnt run out when you take off the NCU fool, you just keep recasting it before it runs out

i have a 6X belt on at lvl 20 and i am a agent FP trader//"Deadly".

I have it on at lvl 15, trox agent. :P

Add: Not with this nano though :P

u guys are retarded. all you have to do to get belt on is delete the NCU chips you already have on then just click new belt over old belt. problem solved. then if you think you arent going to have any ncu just go and buy the chips you had on again and use the buffs from before to get them on then u can use this again to get new chips on one at a time. omfg ima genius! -_-

i dunno why, but i always thought of something like maybe fixer's ncu buff will help and stuff -_-

there's a lot of speculation about how to equip the 6x belts at extremely low levels, but rather than go through the mental exercise/torture of juggling the buffs and equipment numbers, let's avoid reinventing the wheel and just ask those who've done it to explain their process.

so, Morgath and Deadly, amaze us with your AO equipping genius: how 'bout a detailed account please?

Fixers NCU buff isn't going to help at level 9...

and U_Guys_Suck has the way

if it were me id first get some ncu wrist imps, carb armor, coh colar, and whatever else on, then put on a lower belt like 4x or 5x or something, then ladder ransack/divest, and get a wrangle/mochams, then cast mogul, then delete ncu chips, then right click 6x belt and whala, 6x belt at level 20.

u_guys_suck @ 2005-11-23 19:01
u guys are retarded. all you have to do to get belt on is delete the NCU chips you already have on then just click new belt over old belt. problem solved. then if you think you arent going to have any ncu just go and buy the chips you had on again and use the buffs from before to get them on then u can use this again to get new chips on one at a time. omfg ima genius! -_-


OR, instead of being stupid enough to delete your ncu, just 'only' have on 5 NCU's, spend 10*5 seconds removing them, leaving 10 seconds, to hotswap the belt. THIS, is how *ELITE* traders swap on 6 slot belts pre-20, using not this, but *SIMPLY* frequent customer. a 6 slot belt at 160, requires hardly any CL, with 75 custom CL imps, its agi required, making it simple to get on the imps, then twinking on a 6 slot belt, then twinking on better NCU's using lower ncu units to store your buffs, and then, hah, just FYI, you can get around... 300ish ncu, PRE-20.
i didnt bother making a pre-20 twink, i went for a 24 twink, which currently has on a 6 slot belt, has 291 ncu, and a full QL 75 combined mercs set, as well as Stygian, which is 100%, pre-buffage, due to the combined mercs and 100 2 H edged imps. if people think a 6 slot is a problem pre-20.. Pft. hah. i pity you.

would love to see ur bullshit face to face in game if u ever got time msg me Kplayona level 130 enfo ;)

lol i know its possible to get belt on under 20 i just dont care how. there are some real uber twinks out there, i dont need to know how to prove it can be done.

There is instructions how to get it on at level 13 on an agent, would also possibly work for a trader as agent is fp trader. http://auno.org/forum.php?cmd=show&thread=2478

it on being a 6 slot belt*

I love arguments on the internet! *rolleyes*

I made calculations ; if I get a pocket-MP and a pocket-Trader from my nice org (a pocket-Doc too for another item, which needs both Treatment and Comp Lit), I should be able to twink on easily a QL 175 Belt on my level 21 Agent...So it's possible, but not easy. And I'm not a twinking expert, other guys in my org twink on a 6-slots belt easily at 13...

(using Bulk Trader, not Trading Mogul, of course)

Belt and NCUs equipped successfully, so I confirm this is easily doable at 21 with even Agent, as i'm not a twinking expert

As amazing as it is, watching these discussions, I still have one question:
What do you need a 6-slot belt for at levels below 25? I twinked on a GA1 on my baby-fix at level 24, took me the gcb, NB-ring and some other stuff, but that's about the most NCU-demanding item I can think about (buff-wise). Ok, I can admit that getting on a big bad weapon takes some NCU, but if you'll OE it by 50% when the twink-buffs run out, why even bother? FYI, I had 200+ NCU with the gcb, more by far than I needed... So why even bother?
For all you caffeine-addicted twinkers out there, check Ulf http://www.anarchyarcanum.com/humor_playertypes.html
Just my 2 cents

you guys are forgeting the point off this nano...your meant to use it to buy stuff cheaper...can any1 tell me if its any good for that?

Yeah. Even Frequent customer reduces a bit the costs, I use it sometimes on my agent twink while buying expensive items in shop

Mizzfixit ~> The point is storing buffs like Dr Haqu'n Quack, Rrfe, Behemot, CS, UA (for agents), TTS (for agents and crit-lovers), Mochies (if you cast a lot of nanos)...You can't store all of em, but guess how a twink with Doc's and Enforcer's health buffs (SOME[no pun intended, doc HP buff], Behe and CS) would rock at low PvP...then, go kill clannies (I'm omni) with your uber gun you put on with uber imps you could implant with so much NCU to hold Abils/Treatment buffs... :P If you'er an Agent, get UA and TTS, and if you hard-twinked your agent, at 21, without AI armor, you can hold a QL 100ish Perennium Sniper out of aggro, which does serious damage

*Hack'n Quack

Oh, and twinking isn't really a goal. It's sometimes nice to see how far you can twink a char, and its fun too, when you can hit normal mobs for 600+ ASes at 21 :)

A last post : when I say twinks need NCU, it's about tower wars. I really don't like duels (they're a bit pointless for me), as they need you to be selfbuffed...which doesn't let you take your tower twink and rock, because a tower twink is designed to hold a lot of outside buffs...
I prefer taking down towers, then levelling faster my main and my alts, and also getting a few more points in skills with towers

you do know lvl 20's arnet really meant to twink ql165 nanos?

"Oh, and twinking isn't really a goal. It's sometimes nice to see how far you can twink a char, and its fun too, when you can hit normal mobs for 600+ ASes at 21 :)"

Some of the old-school agent twinks was nasty, I had a lvl 15 agent that did a crit AS for 1,2k :D

enfo, with scope and perennium, 1.2k isnt that great lol

Another great ass point of getting that 6-slotter on pre-24... Viral Compiler <3

This can be cast as lvl 24 froob trox. No need to use crap like arith armor etc.

What a gayness,when someone write a "im able to put on 6 slot belt at XY lvl,now im semi god,you all gimps" like show-off shit...Its pathetic...:D Never wanna befriend a dickface like some of these droid lamers.
Peace out

rofl tru dat. this is how AO is mostly these days, and when you tell it to their face, its all "i dont wanna be your friend, you're mean to me" haha

and, of course, they care lots that you dont want to be their friend...

this onvo went from belts to making friends.....ha!

ok first off you dont use this nano to equip the 6 slot at lowbie levels you use bulk trader -.- and all you people that say its impossible /tell drainzftw my 15 trader has a 6 slot on ill let you inspect me sometime. thx.

this is damn near impossible as a froob at 24, but it is still possible. i calced it, and it would take alot of effort.
you would need +370 ncu, a damn near implausible feat as it is. so you would need maxed pm,si,and ts. around ql 90/95 imps in brain/eye/rhand/ear for pm/ts/si. i also calced the notum rings (+2 in pm/si) & (+2 in ts/mc). with that, you would need 3 mochams (pm,si,ts) a 131 wrangle. thats already an ncu eating near 210 ncu. now you need expertise (+12 ncu) and intelligence boost (+3/4 dont recall ncu). so now where at more less 225/6 ncu. your drains alone are going to be another 90 or so ncu - bringing us to bout 316 ncu. so now that were finally drain laddered and such, we can finally barely cast this nano (w/ expansions, much easier w/ arithmithec and such.) ahhh wahhh this nano is another 51 ncu so were now at 370 ncu.

to get this much ncu your going to need a) at least ql 154 ncu memories (round 480 comp. literacy, doable w/ bulk trader.) coh collar (+30) , suit of carb (either +3 ncu per piece, or the +4 set) , ring of nuclueis basilis (+20), and rebuilt ncu wrists (+11 or so.) all this becomes easier w/ expansions, or other items.


btw, six slot belt is still doable at or around 15 even with the nerf on ncu (cant recast unless you have ncu.)
been proven

dumb me, you only really need around 310 ncu, you dont need 3 mochams running at all times lol. just cancel time and space after your all good and drained and replace it w/ sen. imp. mocham. makes it alot easier.

really easy even as a froob now.

someone know about i can use that comp liter buf on my fixer???

Agent FP trader...
Using mochams + wrangle + NS + boost + expertise to cast drains (you can cast pretty amazing drains at lvl 20) then ladder the drains...
You could get pretty damn close, but still, why would you need this for 6 slot at lvl 20? jeez, just use the next one down and tiwnk you CL a bit!

done at lvl 21 froob trader

You dont use this or 6x belt as lower one is ok. This one is used to equip higher qls of NCUs / stuff AFTER you equip 6x belt.

If it's a discussion about how to get a low level twink with 6x belt, here is something releveant; lvl 1 trader with 6 slot belt (used Bulk Trader, not Trading Mogul). That's twinking!
http://forums.anarchy-online.com/showthread.php?p=5613736#post5613736

I think you need to cast this for legchoppers on a 21-25 froob trader. Perhaps sacrifice a CompLit implant for PsyMod, but still I believe it is the only way. get around 330+ ncu with bulk trader and then retwink into a psymod head/eye imp and cast mogul. will need top usable drains with ts/pm mochams and 131 as well as SensImp mochams... quite a bitch to cast but well worth it if you're going for those silken legchoppers. It's a step beyond just getting on a 6slotter.