Naughty little prog ... what lvl must an NT be w/o outside buffs to use this? Plus i like the lil icon!

question is does anyone have this nasty little bugger :)

I finally got it made. I'm level 152 and can cast this with a MC mocham. Very nice at pvp.

Funny thing is in the 7 seconds it needs to recharge u coulda casted Volcanic eruption 5-6 times doing min 3k dmg total

Msevil has it :D went to nuke Ely bridges ^^ this is soo frikin kewl man :D

Nuking from bridges is lame 8p I was kiting ely hecks at lvl 58 and I have an ark witness to prove it ;) I'd rather keep their aggro hitting them with 5 volcanic erruptions in the time it takes you to recover after one Kel's that's 3160 dammage guaranteed compared to Kel's 2,400 - 3,155 ;p

Actually, nuking from the bridges is a bannable offence

picsl2 and nukeaway obviously dont quite understand the point. As for PvP; casting 5 VE's instead of 1 Kel's, means 5 times more reflect damage, which again means dead NT.

As for kiting hecklers, 5 VE's means stopping up 5 times instead of 1 running.
Then again, easy to brag about stuff here without needing to prove anything, eh;)

And 5 VE`s means that damage is AC nerfed 5 times instead of just 1... So the total damage will suck alot then! :P

Is it true that Nuking from Ely bridges is a bannable offence? I dont understand why, its a variaty of places that you can stand and mobs cant, so whats the problem? Do NT`s have to hide now? And what abaut all the agents, soldiers, fixers, Docs, and others standing at the bride with rifles???

This totally suck! And BTW, some chars with QL 200 NCU`s at lvl 1 is still
araund!

Yeah that wouldn't be a great idea ..why jump down our throats for something they should fix in the code anyways? Put up an invisible wall or something ..geez.

Most commanly boss loot. Drops from high lvl dyna bosses too I guess. Ask someone in your guild if they have the ID.. it's not uncommon.

LoL that atrox with soli face was probably me, I found that glitch awhile back....=) also it works with female face. Intresting little glitch =) I talked with an ARK and he said im ok with the face, he said i have no personal gain from it, and its not harming anyone.

:-)

Damage aside, it's got another 5m in the AoE range over Volcanic Eruption, and you'd be surprised (especially when hecks start hopping around >_< from seeing someone else) how much 5m can make a difference.

Found the disc in a 204 team mish on the boss

And Geargrinderx, 5m IS A BIG difference.. =P

What level can a agent cast it on? that fp as nt

Im a agent level 147 im looking forward to kiting with this around level 180 will be hard because of the gimp nano init i have ><

how much nano init do you need to insta cast this?

1000 is my guess at 75% aggro...
1200+ full def would guess somewhere between 13-1400...
don't care to do the math right now

Nice nano, I'm gonna enjoy this when I finaly get it on...

i heard that this has been cast at level 60-70 before with MC mochams. not sure if that's true or not.

Hmmm why does every1 want Symbs?
u only need MC to cast NT dmg nanos so use ql 200 imps insted... mutch more MC in them than in a silly Symb

TIm, at around ql200, symbs still add just a little less MC than ql200 imps, but they add the same amount to all nanoskills, not just MC, allowing you to use much better buffs and such

weeee it rocks at lvl 119 :)
hecks is really fun now

what is the lowest lvl anyone has got this on (NOT WITH EXPLOITS). preferably froob, and if someone could tell me how...

hmm..i would really love nukeaway to tell me/us exactly what he did to manage to get 836 MC at lvl 58. Step by step plz ^^ Like a twinked lvl 60 trader with mochams and fully ladder drained can get like 800+

wouldent be surprized if someone tryed to hide this "plaything" in a leet doll >:)

howmuch nano init u have to insta cast this lil baby?

nvm.. =/ allready use myself now =) got 1365 init and 100%agg insta cast :DDD
people pay lots of money to kite for em these days only prob was to get the ID into nano crystal :-D

Enfoh lol ive seen 60 engys with slayers in totw. and thats 800+ in 2 nanoskills. do some research youll see that its very possible. extremely expensive and or time consuming but its possible.

This is awsome! , Using at level 120

Mine instacasts at 800 Nanoc. Init ish

yeah pretty easy to instacast this. just uploaded it on my NT yesterday. in the 5-6 hours ive kited so far kels is not better than VE and VE is not better than kels. they both have their uses in certain situations. IMO every kiter should have this VE and boil blood on their hotbar while kiting.

there have also been alot of people getting flagged and jumping into a kite so they flag the kiter. then rooting or killing he kiter. why do people do this. a word of caution to anyone kiting.

Sarouka @ 2006-07-03 19:14
Enfoh lol ive seen 60 engys with slayers in totw. and thats 800+ in 2 nanoskills. do some research youll see that its very possible. extremely expensive and or time consuming but its possible.
hmm... theres a bit difference between getting 874 MC/TS with wrangle/mochams and full arithmetic and other nice thingies, and 994 MC (hmm do I see a difference of 120 there?)

Sarouka @ 2006-07-05 20:03
there have also been alot of people getting flagged and jumping into a kite so they flag the kiter. then rooting or killing he kiter. why do people do this. a word of caution to anyone kiting.

They do this to get rid of the kiter so their own nt can get the spot on a lame way

eaze @ 2004-05-01 02:50
picsl2 and nukeaway obviously dont quite understand the point. As for PvP; casting 5 VE's instead of 1 Kel's, means 5 times more reflect damage, which again means dead NT.

As for kiting hecklers, 5 VE's means stopping up 5 times instead of 1 running.
Then again, easy to brag about stuff here without needing to prove anything, eh;)


However if you just used this, it gives your opponent time to heal... meaning dead nt again ^^

HooooHaaaaaa!

Possible on a 75 twink with full ql 130 scouts/ql 200 imps and outside buffs?

Good nano to use in ely, since it only requires you to stop once every few seconds and instacast, a bit less lag-affected than vulcanic erupt which you need to run, stop, cast, run, stop cast etc

why would a lvl 75 want to twink an AoE? this is for kiting

I actually use AoE's for PvP sometimes. The insta-cast and quite-fast recharge is lovely.

Every few seconds? You do know you can't lower re-charge right? 7.5 seconds is a -long- time to let them heal and or stop PvP and PvM.

No thanks, due to the upgraded speed and range by hecklers I would much rather use VE. Good luck with Kels', you officially suck.

VE roxxor >.<

kels ftw. Best kiting nano imo - simply because with VE you are stopping and starting alot more. I like to relax, have a quick chat with my team before i have to nuke again. only problem with this is fumbles. otherwise its just plain easier to use than VE. ends up having higher dmg anyway with higher nanodmg%.

on the other hand at the end of a kite i tend to use VE over this before they split off to far and end up rnning into the back of them..

Use VE to kite them all the way down, shout PERKKKK to the crat and finish em off with this little nano <3

Worthless nano. VE much better. Maybe this would be good to kill off a group in pvp at the end, but other than that, it's worthless.

How many of you stating VE is better. have actually done any kiting? my point exactly.

VE better for grinding down i found, use this to quickly finish

u are dammn worng i can kill hecklers more faster if i want then the ve

more then*

The *Real* reasons that Kel's Neutrnium Plaything is a better nuke for Kiting Hecklers.
1. Kel's Neutronium Plaything has a 10% less NR check than Volcanic Eruption. This means less chance of a heckler Resisting the nuke, causing no damage.
2. Kels Neutronium Plaything while being alot mroe damage does have a longer recharge, which which time i you had 2k runspeed and didn't have to worry about keeping hecks off your ass you could technically do more damage with Volcanic Eruption, Unless, like most people who can get higher runspeed, you have much more nano init at the time and + nano damage again, making Kel's the better choice.
3. Kel's has a 5m wider range than VE which means it hits more stragglers and makes it easier to pull.
4. If you kite alot, you notice alot of hecklers die at different times, using VE this happens alot more, slowing them down and seperating them, making them hard to kill, Ke'ls does all the damage at once, while they are together killing them quickly and close together making for a more efficient crat perking.

Yes, what Selkies says is right. VE would do more damage when CHAINCASTED. To chaincast a 1.5sec recharge nuke would require much runspeed. IMO they do quite equal damage, and I prefer stopping once every 8th sec instead of constant stopping to nuke them.

100% agree to datagutt but i still favor VE for APF :P
so it doesnt matter after all since u just have to have both ;)

The IDs for these used to be trash some years ago, but these days I have the feeling they are quite valuable - am I right?

rollable ?

Lucky Kiting got nerfed a bit, and hecks got some range finally. =)

also nice when ur doing min dmg, kel's pwns VE, cuz kel's=VE*4 at min dmg.. but prolly still better to use VE for fast recharge

The bonus here is that you have time to run away. If you get an OST, you can just VE a ton and be done with it. Though this does have a lower chance to resist.

HI, Im new to the fourms and i was just reading through..
tartaran @ 2003-08-11 18:58

I finally got it made. I'm level 152 and can cast this with a MC mocham. Very nice at pvp.

I was level 140 and i could cast this using only Comp Infuse....

Just saying...

This is possible at around lvl 75 with high ql AI armor + ql200 imps + Cyberdeck + Mochs

I use VE all the way down to about 5% hp then start nuking with Kel's so they all die in one nice big go :)

jake7a @ 2009-04-14 10:07
HI, Im new to the fourms and i was just reading through..
tartaran @ 2003-08-11 18:58

I finally got it made. I'm level 152 and can cast this with a MC mocham. Very nice at pvp.

I was level 140 and i could cast this using only Comp Infuse....

Just saying...

my level 118 can cast this selfed in perk reset

just saying...

@2003-08-11 18:58
Think about that..

i got it working self buff at 135 :)

Selkies, if you ever have a heckler resist VE let me know, this sucks compared to VE-- i have majorly gimped rs and was kiting using VE at level 125 insta cast, if you cant chain cast VE kiting ely hecks there is a problem, especially since you are paid and have perks and whatnot.

Good for kiting pw borgs, when you cant have fixer there to buff you, cast it, and run away, cuz u cant cast it again quickly
+ for the aoe radius

Selfed at 130 SL only.. using gimpy symbiants =P Perks / Nelebs / Nanodeck2 / 230ish miys nano nano mage vte's As the game gets older... with more resources, stuff gets easier ^_^

Casting @ no with no AI armor and moch

@ 90 :P

i can self this nano on mylvl1 froob trox nt

Hey morons, stop with the "OMG I CAN KAST IT AT A LOWER LEVEL THAN U" retardation. It's not helpful.

Finaly bought this nano because of all the people saying get this it is better than Volcanic Eruption for Kiting. I would say NO but it is great to have when you lost half your health and have to keep moving to regenerate or finish them off . You still have to hop around and wait till you can cast anything else. VE can be casted every second or jump while this nano you would have to wait 7 or 8 seconds to recast which is alot of jumping. Definately worth getting but I mostly use VE and maybe use this 3 or 4 times to kill many hecks :) Post Vintexx for kiting services on rk2.

my 85 nt is otw to self it.

to that flaming kels <-> VE:
yeah for just nuking use VE,
for kite, depends alot on ur rs.
sum1 with 800 rs wud use Kel's definitively.
sum1 with 1k can spam VE w/o thinking

iirc my nt got 985 rs atm, kiting ely hecks works fine with ve, but wanna be able to cast kels to see the difference

i self cast this on a tradeskilling advy