the smg soldier at a new dmg frontier

Nice weapon :)

Hmm, Fullauto cycle 11000, isn't that a very high FA recharge ?

Yes, it is. Fixer just got ubah pvp weapon and it not bad in pvm neither.

since when do we ahve more FA-skill than Burst?

The FA recharge on this is disgusting :(( Fixers will stick to the MK4, and so too will soldiers although they might go with this one as a 220 soldier should have about 2k FA skill anyway. The MK6 is 2handed.

ah it seems MK4, 5 and 6 are 2 handed.....

FA recharge is too low not interesting ;/

At 1981 fullauto, refresh = 78s. Thanks for worthless weapon FC!

And fullauto is crap in pvp except vs people with no evades anyway...this weapon sucks.

dooh a new shit item. That�s Crap ok Dual Wield but 74sec FA and in a time with ai armor...

If this weapon was dualed with a jpgpp would the FA cycle follow the recharge of the jpgpp or this, would it make any difference which hand they where in?

it would depend on wich weapon fires the FA if it fires from jpgpp then it would be that recharge if it was this it would be this recharge, the one in right hand has biggest chance to fire specials although really you just gotta press the special button while the other gun is rechargin

hmm wasn't the special coming from the r-hand first and only from l-hand when it's not present anywhere else?
so if u put the Hawk right, Jobe left you would FA from the Hawk

A gun that makes us able to kill docs, kill of enf's solds and most other profs faster aint crap ;)

Um...no.
This is crap.
No fixer can equip this, even with full ai armor and the best in game items.

As for soldier? Why would you?
If you're a cowboy, then using this in combination with a JPGPP cuts out the fling special you get with a KMP type 5.
And the base dmg increase is rubbish compared to 6 sec flings.

Survey says....omgnothxkkbyeeeeeeee

Just to reply to Yfo, not always, after experimenting with 2 guns (blinded black bird with 9/10 second burst recharge and ql 180 kyr'ozch type 5 26 seconds burst recharge) 8/10 times i bursted from the BBB (in right hand) the other 2 times i bursted while BBB was recharging and got the 26 sec lock so thus i fired from the kyr'ozch in left hand

from next patch they will add FA to ofab fixer armor, and reduce FA rec on this, so it will be doable. (so i've heard) dunno how much they will reduce/add tho..

QL 300 stats:
Fixer Ofab +75
Frenzy of Shells +90
Full Auto Requirement -90

As of 17.1, fixers become 255 points closer to equipping this

got to 1733 FA with my fex fix without perks and towers--->222 (supple set vs 2 kaehler sleeves) + 30 (Leo's Armband) + 51 ( ql 218 exterminator ocular) + ql 300 imps (r.arm+r.wrist+waist)

ouch >_< no direct FA perks 4 fixerz, only can try perk str/sta ("\.(-.-)./")
still doubt whether i want too spend 970k ips for maxing FA.....("\.("o*)./")

if crzyboy information is correct:1853(1733+30 from tower+90frenzy) vs 1891...my tips for the ~40 are:
-higher towers, ;( on dnw no clan org owns a ql300 towefield) ql 300 ransacking adds +50 FA
-org contract, a ql 250/300 Universal Advantage - Heavy Balance adds +33-36 FA
-org contracts for strength+stamina+perking str/sta will give some other FA trikle down
conclusion: when crzyboy is right worth trying...

ok now easy to equip,but lack 15 points to switch selfbuffed still,our poor org has only a ql 75 towerfield :(

This weapon is probably the best thing that happened to fixers in years.

Got it on the Saturday after the 17.1 debuted. It certainly is possible, but a lot is needed...

I self equip it i got 1920 fa now since funcom added the +90 Fa buff from our smg buff ;)

If you dont like the FA recharge, put this in your off-hand and use a typed kyr'ozch machine pistol in your dominant hand.

To Gurudee...
This Hawk Mk 5 (ql 175) is easy to get on TL5 twinks with ql200ish CSS set, it's rather easy get iin if you have at least ql190 symbs in... (seen fixers getting ql200 too on at level 165)... Getting ql 300 on at 220 isnt a trouble for fixer in ql300ish CSS armor and good symbs... (there are also Frederickson Kinetic Sleeves (+36 Assault Rifle and Full auto from each sleeve).

Xira @ 2007-05-29 15:29
If you dont like the FA recharge, put this in your off-hand and use a typed kyr'ozch machine pistol in your dominant hand.

that changes nothing... only where burst comes from 80% of the time

Kyr machine pistol doesnt even have FA
/me dumb

To Jedtrox...True. So what???
The FA cycle on this sucks. I'm sure you can get it on...but really would u bother?

The calc for FA is = ((Recharge x 40) + Full Auto Delay) - FA skill/25
::Full auto delay is full auto recharge/100::

In this case, you need ((440000)+110)-(xxxxxxxx/25)....and then you forget it this as an option if you are a soldier looking to replace the JPGPP....unless know a way to get about 10.4+mil FA skill....

stfu? all good fixers are using ql300 ofab hawk mk 5 since 17.1-17.4+

3675 FA to cap recharge on this... Uhm... "Great fixer weapon"
Please share some of that stuff you're smoking FC, the fixers need it more than this gun anyway...

Fixers can be happy that they get FA at all! AS fling burst FA and a couple of perks sure do alot on.... soldiers, enfs, docs... and stuff like that.

well there is the Full auto sploit....