Oh dear, was really hoping FC would put right where they went wrong with the AI carbine....seems they just increased the damage slightly and changed the mesh, the FA recharge in this is about 30seconds with 2k FA skill....which makes it do less damage overall than the 4year old SPB, wtf FC!

Dude calm down.. you will be abel to get way more FA then 2k... i dont know how much yet but i got a fealing we wount be that far off from caping it...

does the SPB not have a 5k FA cycle? is that not a slower recycle than this, by almost 10 seconds?

@fostian
No. The calc for determining special recharge times is recharge time * 40+ full auto recharge/100 - (fa skill/25) = recharge.

SPB with 2000 FA skill works out to be...(40*1)+50-(2000/25)=10 (Although I think the SPB is hard capped at 11secs)

This pile of...er....weaponry... (40*1.6)+45-(2000/25)=29

SPB is 1/1 while this is 1.6/1.6....and that .6 in the equation makes a big difference.
Anyway, I was thinking of perking out of smg (as Soldier) back into a decent 2 hand weap...but this wont be it.
/me sad. Troxy soldier with pop guns look naff. WTB viable 2hand weap that lets me kicks some a$$ Rambo/ChainGun Stylez!!!

so with that formula it would take 2450 FA skill to cap the new LE weapon?

I can't understand the guy who made this weapon :(( .... with the FA skill that soldiers with have in LE he puts only 25 bullets on weapon jeez :(( I was shooting with 27 bullets with perennium....

@Gurudee
Ah...I always missed that portion of the eqation (the 40*recharge). I guess having used a weapon with 1sec recharge since forever, that part of the eqaution was essentially never needed for me to figure out my recharge time

might be able to get 20k FA's in pvp with this though

Unluckily there's a hardcap (15k) and also the 40%-Cap in PvP :-)

- OFAB Shark MK6 has been improved
withe new patch (Version 17.0.3) hope somone Give us more info :D

I think the attack/recharge has been reduced to 1.5/1.5 so the FA recharge cap should be easier to reach....easier but still hard ;)

Needed FA skill to cap is now 2375, which is possible. I'm getting 2360 atm, so just need to swap in Red Belt from TNH as soon as it drops ^_^
Btw, Anisher?! Can't remember excactly, but with SRPB i was shooting 28 or 29 bullets with FA :p (didn't make a difference anway ^^)

Looks like they are making it 1.4/1.4 and higher dmg in 17.1 =) Soldiers finaly get the AR they diserve ^.^

Should cap at 11 secs with 2250 FA then if my calcs are right... =)

Fling shot plz

pardon my Assault Rifle noobness, but what is SPB?

SPB and SRPB : http://auno.org/ao/db.php?cmd=search&name=superior%25blaster

So where are the new patchnotes? last version from 17.0, what would be the new numbers to get 11 second recharge now

Well, seems 17.2 version is just a decrease to recharge/attack to 1.4 sec, the cycles are still the same http://aomainframe.info/showitem.aspx?AOID=265103

And it seems you need 2240-2250 full auto to get 11 sec full auto recharge with the new numbers, better but still not good for the normal soldier who cant afford ai armor.

2275 FA for the 11.4s cap

well the gun saves ammo :P

with the new 1.4/1.4 times on this gun the equation is now...
(40*1.4)+45-(2240/25) = 11.4

so to take advantage of all the extra proj dmg from research perks, the magic number is now 2240
get twinking :)

What's better this or the Dreadloch Modified?

@ Donfrigo @ 2007-10-07 15:04 "What's better this or the Dreadloch Modified?"

For pure damage junkies, this is as good as it gets for soldiers.

Hmm D-shark has better dmg 320-560 (350) and better Attack rating cap 2700. But i guess the benefit from Projectile hits will still od it..

@Gurudee @ 2007-10-09 13:32

For pure damage junkies, this is as good as it gets for soldiers.


SMG / JPGPP is still better for pure dps.

They should add fling to this.

treu

Zinrax @ 2007-11-17 22:54
Hmm D-shark has better dmg 320-560 (350) and better Attack rating cap 2700. But i guess the benefit from Projectile hits will still od it..

Thats right. Most Noob-stick soldiers don't even realise that our LE procs are energy/proj damage only, so with a Mk 6 Shark you get an extra 158 damage per shot with both procs up...then there are things like RBP, Artillery Tank that don't buff cold damage but adds a nice bit to projectile.

PvM this thing is noticeably better than a Dshark..Of course for PvP then the Dshark has its own merits.