hm:)

Something stylish to wear, when not infight/flagged.

Looks like a nice damage adder for MA's since all the Req's are geared towards MA setups.

Could be, seems too look nice atleast. ^^

Gimme :| ...think it's nice at max AC Mobs...like Inferno Horror's...or Pande....alternative to the Torturing Tool.. ;D

why would an MA use this?

cos it's better than TT nubbins

I reckon that as with West Wind Katana, u are dbl wielding fists & melee. This is traduced with more hits per min (see http://users.adelphia.net/~chronita/index.htm under MA weapons for the details). Since dependant on martial arts 100% the actual hit rate should not be affected (as to whether it affects critical hit rate would be interesting to know). That MA's only should use fists is definetely a falacy :-). kind regards.

any1 have found em? What ql and from whom?

QL300, tradeskilled from Sector 35 drops.

I was talking to a friend of mine who is a 220 MA and has this, and he said it's not that great unless you're killing mobs that you're doing min damage on. So this is pretty much just an upgraded TT.

Yes apparently only good on 255 inc or tuin spot ;o Maybe pande too... Since it reqs 2k MA i mean ;p

less use for MAs, more use for high level non-MAs using MA skills (ie, TroxDoc ;) who don't have access to the various MA nanos.

Extremely useful against high ac mobs (inf missions, pande, inf in general)
and Extremely crappy against normal or low ac mobs (example: aliens)

so how is this for lets say MA doc?
i seen many doc at higer lvl that use MA as weapon

correction to my earlier post: its great even on lower ac mobs since all dmg BoB does is all extra, as long as you only use 1 BoB so you will be doing combined attacks by fists & BoB aswell hitting faster.

How does a doc get 2K Martial Arts skill and 1,3K Brawl???

yeah i dont think a doc can. Even at level 220 a ma only gets 1300ish from IP. With symbs, items, buffs and perks i imagine you could get it to 2k+, but I serirously doubt that a doc could get 2k ma skill. Doctors are best sticking to weapons at any rate. Say theres a doc and a ma, both with 1k ma skill, the ma would still outdamage them because of the way damage is calculated with ma skill. Shades can also use martial arts, better than most professions, but not as good as ma's.

Oh, I forgot to mention, the damage is in addition to your fists. Its not replacing them, its working with them, so its like a damage bonus. Also theyre the coolest looking weapons in the game IMO. :)

Hmmm... I thought its working like this:
1 sec attack by BoB / 1 sec attack fist / 1 sec recharge
For only fists it is 1 sec attack / 1 sec recharge
Correct me if im wrong.

BTW for doc base MA max is 1134 (for 220)

New-update: BoB is usable for Docs - Hopemed (220) just equipped it, and its not OE selfbuffed.

yeah hpemed is fkn uber :D Bump for hope and his BoB

I believe that tripple wielding (fists + MA-weapon) is a little more advanced then what has been discussed here. The official forum is down atm, but you can read about it there, in The Dojo if I'm not mistaken.
If my memory servs me, it was something like MA's getting 48 hits per minute with fists only and 40 with fists and 20 with weapon when you tripple wield. I could be so wrong here though! :)

hm does a MP get 2k MA ?
MP+Yellow Force Tight Armor+bob= style :D

got mine for 158 points on RK1 :O

why cant we use points on RK2 too :p

Uber

Moniker @ 2005-08-30 07:01
Shades can also use martial arts, better than most professions, but not as good as ma's.


Actually , shades have worse martial arts template than everyone else. and martial artists do have better than everyone period.

however some shade weapons can do combined attack with martial arts, which leaves em better off than most profs.

(o.O)*drool*

Baina, doc on RK1 equipped it at 217 I think.

And then she went for AS bow instead. :p

Enfo, correct. Baina has 2x BoB @217

Seems she threw away the bow..
Saw her with the dual BoB's again some time ago.

From personal experience.. Comileee RK2
None- good on aliums and general rk mobs, also on pvp, works best w/crit setup
One- good on medium defense mobs, good on fast atk-kill places like apf 35'
Two- awesome on high defense mobs, also superb to solo hard mobs if you have disharmony maxed.

The multi melee investment is 100% worth the IP investment unless you are only devoted to pvp(where they suck), they also look awesome :P

hehe for pvp take off and bump up crit chance ;)

It's easy to get on at 210. Towers, Combined Merc's, decent symbs, and Moonmist will make it cake to get on. If you can't get it on then, just grab a wrangle/umbral from a trader :)

Very nice Aberroyc, do you have your BoB equipped or not yet? (i know for a fact he had been working his ass off in APF for it lol)
Remember, Opi MAs are uber, pffft for all others :p

what does "TT" mean ?

Tourturing Tool: http://auno.org/ao/db.php?id=157899

This is such crap that the only item that relies on 100% martial arts skill has a 210 lvl requirement *angry*
Its boring using fist throughout your whole martial arts career. Come on FC and developers add something fun to higher lvl MA's.

Yes.. every profession can wear this fine item.. even Shades who cant use implants

This is such crap that the only item that relies on 100% martial arts skill has a 210 lvl requirement *angry*
Its boring using fist throughout your whole martial arts career. Come on FC and developers add something fun to higher lvl MA's.

Pink Mech with LE? ;D

seen as no-ones posted the upgrade 'details' if you dont know, its a ql 250+ kyr rapier - type 992 upgraded with: http://auno.org/ao/db.php?id=257961

Baina, doc on RK1 equipped it at 217 I think. na it was @216 :-)

With LE (+100 MA) a trox Doc can get a BoB on with just MA Mastery from a low level MA (no wrangle) if they have full CM. And any breed can probably do it with only a 131 Wrangle.

The question is does it beat a 285-290 Kry Sword which can fit Trox docs? 1800 each hit.

Of course it would! For many reason, first multi is stronger overall because of all that is +add dmg. Second, martial arts is the 2nd cheapest IP wise skill wise, it also goes up higher, so that equals high attack rating, so you miss less and perks miss less too (not all). Phisic Init is also cheaper. What you will have less, fast attack...that hurts.
Anyway best doc skills in order are : Pistol then MA, then all equal Shotgun, Piercing, 1h edged, 1h blunt then all equal again Smg, 2h edged, 2hblunt, melee energy...then the rest which sucks anyway.
I believe multi is better so, that leaves pistol that are overall bad weapons, BOB, a good choice, 1h edged for sneak pvp, 1h blunt probably the ultimate pvm weapon for docs.
Trox doc, 1h blunt ftw.

Ah and, trox doc, 1h blunt ftw means...a trox doc would be nice with 1h blunt, but I would'nt choose trox at all

Dildo may be better, but these are still a lot more stylish.

I think 2 of these are doable at a minimum of 215 (on a doc)

What I'm wondering is why you have to use a typed rapier to get a weapon that lacks sneak and fast attacks.

bob does suck in damage but every ma should spend 15m to get them becouse they look so bloody wicked !

Esproc @ 2009-03-14 11:00
What I'm wondering is why you have to use a typed rapier to get a weapon that lacks sneak and fast attacks.

A better question would be where the hell my glory proc goes after "upgrading" <_<

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