whats the lowest ql if this swrd?

this is the lowest, ql 100..also the rarest...

there is also 101,102,103,104, and 105, 105 is called crispy chiroptera...that's the best one.

Price for this one is usually around 40 mill.

nah usually around 20 mil

i paid 3 mil for a crispy chiroptera but iv seen the lower ql go for as high as 35 mil per sword

the lower qls are rarer

Are these misionable?

no you get them from coh

lol useful in SL only because lowest AC = rad there ;)

anyone know how fast you can do fast attack with this baby? :P

Yakobo66 @ 2006-07-22 19:44
lol useful in SL only because lowest AC = rad there ;)

no they're not, chemical is the best type of damage :P

rad= highest AC there lol

trust me, my chemical damage perks always do more damage than my other dmg type perks

i know!!! >.< o realised my mistake after i typed it but couldnt be bothered correcting =P

the 750 multi melee req is the pits, would be useable at about 60 if it were 400-500ish :(

errr, can get 750 multimelee at 60, know of a ocuple of advies with them on at 60 on rk2 ;)

but enfo cant

So dual it with a Chief Cook Cleaver.

chief cook cleaver + chirop = able @lvl60 as opifex-enf?

yes

besides lazy ppl who buy this, who does this drop from in CoH?

Cenobite shadows

Camped about 2 Month on RK 3.... there dropped about 10 Crispy Chiros, 2 103er, but nothing else^^ (Except the blackbirds etc)

Here is how to put this as froob in totw:

Chiroptera ql 100
User Profession == Adventurer or
User Profession == Enforcer and
User 1h Edged >= 751 and
User Sneak attack >= 376 and
User Fast attack >= 376 and
User Brawl >= 451 and
User Dimach >= 151

Lvl 60 atrox advy base stats:
302 1he
302 multimelee
270 fast attack
272 brawl
270 sneak
not counting dimach

1he:
302 base
132 wrangle
40 Wind Slicer nano
40 silken gloves
20 expertise
5 backpack from shop
13 ql 100 guardian conductor of learning
14 2x ql 100 rhinoman sleeve
4 pilgrim pants 128+
160 ql 150 implants
30 2x tripler ql 126+ (those are rollable)

760 total (not counting trickledown)

Sneak attack:
270 base
20 expertise
80 ql 150 feet implant
28 ql 130 eye implant
13 ql 100 tower

411 total

Fast attack:
270 base
20 expertise
13 guardian conductor ql 100
4 pilgrim pants
3 Wind Slicer
160 ql 150 implants

470 total

Brawl:
272 base
45 Dirty Fighter (MA buff)
20 expertise
160 ql 150 implants

497 total

Done ;)

Nice post Ciekafsky thanx :)

i love having expansions with those you can prolly get it on with only ql 130 implants :)) working on my lvl 60 advy twink atm ><

just forget multi Melee Ciefkafsky, and it's the hardest part

What's a good offhand for a 60 Solitus advy with expansions?

mulard @ 2007-10-17 13:59
just forget multi Melee Ciefkafsky, and it's the hardest part

...true, but thats a guide how to put 1 on, hence...
Ciekafsky @ 2007-06-18 23:18
Here is how to put this as froob in totw:

...and not how to put a pair on.

As it is, thats a damn nice guide for those to lazy to work it out for themselves.
Grats Ciekafsky. GJ :)

It was about only one. Its impossible to use 2 chiros as froob and wearing one will be much better than wearing chiro + some crap offhand.

I am a level 49 froob enfo whos trying to equip one of these for tl2 BS. I think i can do it, but im not sure. Im going to be using the backpack, ql 140 imps, an nball, rhinoman sleeves, 2x triplers. Also, ill use obviously the expertise buff, and also the +42 enfo buff. I want to use silken legchoppers, but im not sure if i can get them on. if anyone has any tips for me, send a tell to pyroathiestx or pyroathiest3

just a clarification, ill be using the lowest ql nball i can, so prob adding 17 1he. Also, i will try to use ql 130ish rhinoman sleeves, adding about 30 as a pair. the triplers will prob add about 50
.

Late post, but I don't think you can get this on a 49 froob. I barely managed it with a 49 nm with all expansions. (I ended up with ~640 1he selfed)

But yeah. If you got it gz.

First of all, there is no way to get lvl 130 rhinoman sleeves.... biggest i seen is ql 102...
Second of all, you need 410 multi melee for two ql 126 triplers...
Third, there is no way for a lvl 49 FROOB enf to put Silken Legchopper Gloves... which is a -40 1HE skill
Fourth, QL 80 ( lowest ql available ) Guardian Conductor or Learning requires TL3 which you don't have... ( req lvl 50 )
Fifth, for pilgrim pants you gotta be Clan... and ql 130 gives +4... which is kinda worthless... ( reqs 327 sta/str )
Sixth, u can only use Edge of the barber ( +42 1HE buff ) ... ( Edge of the Buccaneer req lvl 50 )...
And I can go like this all day...

GL twinking bro ;)

I do know that I can't use a tower for the 1he. However, I wouldnt immediately write off legchoppers...they might just barely be possible. Instead of useing 2 ql 126 triplers, i could use a lower one and a higher one, and achieve the same effect with lower mult melee necessary. Also, ql 130 rhinoman sleeves, if not easy to get, are definitely possible with patience. There is a level 135 rhinoman warchief in varmint woods, and ive gotten ql 135 gloves off of him, so sleeves should be possible as well.

I do want to make sure that i am correct in my assessment that a chirop would definitely be easier to twink on than a panther or a howlet. I think I'm right, but im not postive.

Chirop + Cleaver t 45 is the pwn :p hard as hell thou

ignore Styxor, he is a big exploiter, he has a lvl 30 jame trader, and a 45 trox enfo with chirop and cleaver, so its clear he exploited even though his trader gets owned in BS.

Here other nice PvP/SL analogue of a Chiroptera (100QL): http://auno.org/ao/db.php?id=271137&ql=113

@styxor
If it was hard even for you, it must be impossible without exploiting then...

Not that I need to beat a dead horse, but Chirop+Cleaver is impossible at level 45, at 60 my Multi Melee(trox enfo) is capped around 530, might be able to push it a bit, but not that much

Dualed 2 of those on mine 60 enfo trox great in pvp :)

i know 1 person who made 103 chirop + 100 chirop at lvl 60 :) un-oe selfed :)

i got an trox enfo at lvl 60 with a 100 chirop an a 160 chief cook cleaver, u can also trow on cm,cc or ofab sleeves they add 1he. :p

yeah it's possible as lvl60 enfo, i've got 100 + 103 but its was veeeeery hard :D

@Xaerro

First of all QL 130 Rhino Armors definatly are IG, I have a QL 165 pants /tell Jaksparow and I have many QL130ish parts /tell Trytotank I'm wearing a QL 134 pair of gloves and a QL 136 Chest...
Then the Pilgrim Protector Pants don't give 1h edged, you must be mistaking with Pilgrim Seeker Armors which are Advi only...
I've met a crat today, he told me his froob enfo used to be lvl 49 with silkens & Corpse Cutter QL 140
... I wondered how the hell did he manage to get that high in CL ...
[The Naab Crat]: Easy ! QL 140 CL implant in head/eye and RH slot + armors + pistols !
...
I offered him to tip 200M to explain me step by step how he has done... but he declined !
Anyways he made my day ! Ty little crat you were funny !

Finally I still think that Silken are possible at lvl 49 on a froob enf ... We talked about that many times with Pyro...
In my opinion It would exist 2 ways :
-The first one : To get enough -skill lock modifier to be able to use the CL tutoring device twice... Any tip about it ?
-The other one : http://auno.org/ao/equip.php?saveid=157445 this setup (not sure about the QL of the implants...) and hotswap the CL back with a Pioneer Backpack, and if tutoring is maxed with all the trickledown + 20 from expertise + 306 from the setup It ends at ~ 575 tutoring, then use a Computer Literacy Tutoring Device QL 115+ and swap back the omni coat ... with this setup + trickledown + tutoring device I end at ... stay tuned ... 479 CL ... damn close ... with higher QL implants or higher device ... It should be possible ... Doh!

@all those calling me sploited

http://auno.org/ao/equip.php?saveid=157453

there ya go , must suck being unable to twink huh?

that setup gives ya 631 Multi melee at lvl 45
Swap a 140 cleaver over the Polly pillow and then a 100 chirop over the 160 cleaver aaaaaaand .... done ?


sploit that losers ;p

/pwnd

camping shadows hope it drops ;-)

oh btw 100-200m on gms now rk1