How do i get a hold of this shadowland heal. Is it a mission or can i be bought in a shop.

lol :P Inferno Garden :)

can a 175 dok actualy cast this (solitus) or at later levels?

Im a 175 nano doc and can cast CR with CI running. It takes some resources to twink into this nano, but it is by no means impossible, not even for Solitus.

This nano is also the key ingredient in soloing Adonis Hecklers at that level.

Solo adonis hecklers? lmao..
First of all, soloing those massive HP monsters take forever, and does not give a big enough revard..
Teaming is the only way to lvl in shadowlands.. solo is strictly for bosses

It isn't a matter of soloing hecklers for XP, the point is that you can do it. What other profession can claim to solo an adonis heckler at lvl 175? :P

Also, it doesn't show it, but this nano actually heals for 2-2.5k, not 900-1200. It procs a 900-1200 pt health buff when it is cast on a target, when the health buff goes back down, the HP it gave stays. So it actually makes this nano twice as good as it looks. The health buff isn't taken into account on the heals table, I would guess this heals for at least 350 a second if not more, and not 260.

BTW my Trox doc could cast this with CI at 175.

Strupstad, you didn't actually think I was suggesting soloing Ado Hecks as a means of gaining good xp, did you? No, I was merely talking about the accomplishment as such, just as Decimatus stated. And Dec, good job casting that nano with your trox and just CI. QL200 Jones Vest? 2 levels in Genius? Some DNA perks? 2 VTEs? QL180 Chest Symb? IS ring? Sanguine Ring? White Cloak Hood? Azure Boots? Nano Surgeon/Nano Doctorate/ AF Medic perks?

Full(as far as I could take it) assault force, full nano surgeon, full nano doctorate, 2 in genius, the lvl 139 brain, the 132 chest, 125 waist, 132 left arm, 2 VTE, and CI. May have been a ring or two on, maybe NS, forget the little extras I had... Don't think they added up to more than 20-30 pts by themselves...

The difference between a trox skills and a nanomages isn't that great really. The skill trickle down from int/psych for BM/MM between a trox and a nanomage only ends up being 31 points(224 total int&psy difference/4 = 31 pts trickle down), and that can be overcome easily with the right equipment and or buffs. I would take a trox HP any day over the skill difference. My hp is 5.5k(8.5k-9k buffed), and my nano is 5.5k. My nanomage NT has 3k(6k-6.5k buffed)at my doc's lvl.

Also, after 201 ability caps are gone, whereas HP caps are not. Trox is the way to go for any class you plan on bringing past lvl 200. If you want an easier time twinking into nanos early on in the game, nanomage might be suitable, but have fun being squishy. =)

Trox is not the Way to go at higher levels, good luck using those final SL heals and DoT's (2k Bm!!). And remember, Nano = Hp for dok's. I think solitus is way to go. A extra 2 or 3k hp is nice, but you will find it near imposible to cast the final SL heals/DoT's.

Did i miss something?

AND 1.7k matter creation is gona be near impossible for trox dok

and the loooow nano pool

it is all about what type u r: if u wanna kill higher mobs selfbuffed and have less befits from other ppl choose nanomage, if you wanna be weaker as juzt being your self but take huge advantage in others buffs atrox it the way

210 Nanomage doc: 1850 BM/MM and 1650 MC already, and not too squishy either (12k HP) ;D

Another reason why nanomage is great, is because of the high nano pool and psychic. At 210, I have 10k nano and a nanodelta of 164, ticking every 2 sec (like having 5 PNHs stacked on top of each other). With an MP nanocost buff running, I can go totally crazy with Dots and Complete Heals, without ever worrying about nano stims/kits (as a matter of fact, my nano bar doesnt even shift)

A lvl 175 Atrox doc can cast this with CI. ^^

lvl 175 nm doc can cast this without ci

well i could cast this only with composites near lvl155 with nano controler unit (ig atm)

I can selfcast this at level 150, if it wasn't level locked... Fullset of 200 comobined officer works wonders.

Why is there such a huge skill jump between the top RK heal & this one??? 0.o

Because with SL equip & perks you can easily get much higher skills than with RK gear only.

with decent implants and good buff items even a trox Doc can cast this at 175. Without CI from an MP. Just need the right items.

Still TL 4 and I am 150 BM away...

I have one question though...Are Atrox docs good or what because don't they have Very VERY low nano pool. I mean Its good having alot of HP but whats the use of being a doc if you dont have enough nano to heal. I was just wondering if Atrox docs have the same or atleast almost the same amount of nano as Nanomage docs.

sorry i ment to say atrox docs DO HAVE low nano pool.

I'm a Solitus, I'm lvl174...
I've been alble to cast this for a while, self buffed only...
It seems like ages I've been race capped :(
& this nano has been too long in the waiting, now I just need another 1/3 of a lvl.......... lol

Im 170 atrox doc, will be able to cast it with CI/Fuzzy hood/Necromancer/highest for lvl 175 symbs. I got 6200 nano pool (got 1k board). Got 1750 board on standby waiting for TL6, will have 7200 nano pool at 190. I know i will have some tough time since i hit shadowlevels and start using SL dots. But i will achieve 780 psych and nano pool wont be a problem, its just gonna be much later then nanomage, but i will have this uber nano delta on my trox doc too:)

ROFL guys no reason you cant all cast this nano ... Im only level 114 and can almost cast it if it wasnt for the level req. With CI I have well over 800 MM BM. Not hard to accomplish. Less than 200 points to go will be easy with an upgrade in imps and some twinking long b4 level 175.

Ok here I am level 124 and I can cast this.. p00p on FC for the level req

You people are forgetting about Combined Scout/Arithmetic Armour. With the AI Expansion, the special armours, and the new perks, you won't have to do nearly as much twinking as you used to...

Yeah.. but i know strange.. thats w/o ai armor...

154 atm, with 1050 BM/MM, should be easy to self this at 175, solitus doc btw ;)

just get some nice symbiants in

okay but dont atroxes have low nano......just kiddin LMAO!

Any breed can self this at 175 now, it's not even a debate.

it was a debate when AI was not out

Vol, hense I said *now*.

With no AI armor my 162 Doc has 1143MM, and almost the same in BM. Just NCU/Comm Unit and Perks. AI obviously makes a huge difference in casting. However, that's w/o Necro (Merlin) or Fuzzy, etc - so even in SL, I bet you could have with a little work. Didn't roll a doc post TL5 until after AI, so

...Go troxes... (Even though my doc is a cool opisex.)

BTW Trox IS the way to go, for end game only. The extra HP helps on soloing
the big nasties that could kill you with only a couple of crits, and down the
road, Nano isn't a problem. But mid level, the difference is huge. Note the
trox above that will have 7200 NP at 190; My doc is 30 lvs lower w/7900+ and
has less than 50 short of 11k hp fully buffed - not a big difference until TL7.

use solit doc i has lot's of nano and hp to help you solo inferno. BTW nanomage soloed the LoTv.

Well, at the top end, Atrox docs are able to cast all available nanos (with the right setup) but that is a far cry from being able to -land- DOTs and debuffs on the bigger SL mobs. At any given lvl, including 220, nanomages can have higher skills than any other breed and that will translate into them being able to land UBT and DOTs on mobs that no other class can. Kinda pointless to be an atrox doc and be able to cast big DOTs if you can't land them on the big boys in Inf. and Pand. or in a big tower fight (and Atrox docs, HP notwithstanding, get alpahed just as fast as nanomage docs in a tower fight when the other side targets them).

Jeff dont you have anything else to do than comment EVERY item in here? :D

For me there's not much doubt in my mind that this can be EASILY uploaded as lvl 175. I'm a 145 doc and I'll be able to get the skillz for it in 2/3 lvl's.
The trick is AI lvl's, docs get loads of nano increasing ones, and it all helps, fuzzy hood too, v'nice. it's just getting hold or semi rare items.

With specialist healer 5 perked this will heal for 607 hp/sec, while LE heals for 238 hp/sec. Good stuff :)

selfable by soli at 175 without any ai armor or towers.

Friggin FC and level reqs... I could cast this at 124 with only CI :(

wow 124?
i feel gimp

hehe with ai lvls its really easy, my 130 doc with 14ai lvls can cast with CI easy too :>

170 OPIFEX doctor can cast this since lvl 120 with only 3 pieces of Combined officers AI armor fking Fcom and thier fking lvl caps -.-

at lvl 175 it should be really easy to cast this nano. If ci isnt enough for you then get Composite Mochams (1 hour)

something is wrong with you guys if you cant cast with CI... im lvl141 and got almost the skills for it and im not a twink

the way i'm going, i'll meet the reqs far below level 175. why a level min? dammit!

is there any way to calculate out you healdelta/nanodelta?
like how much int psy nano pool u need for 100 nanodelta`?

if this wasnt level locked then i would be able to cast it at level 117 =D

This is a uber heal, thanks to this i soloed my first Adonis heckler at lvl 178 (haven't tried before)without any outside buffs. damn nice heal it is ^^

/credsandheal Doctor on Rimor

175 Troc Doc selfcasting :) took some creds and twinking, but worth it (no arthmetic btw)

and Datagutt, its 100points per delta i think but i get an extra 97from symbs so i have around 104 ;)

Dont tell us what lv you could use it under the lv lock, go now!, go level!. then we can see you use on the filed where its really useful

This isnt too rough for trox docs at all, actually. With the most updated symbs you can do at 175, as well as CoNC 9, and some other stuff, a trox doc wont even need Rean Cloak or Fuzzy hood, nor AI Armors to self this at 175.

pff atrox have low nanopool, so what, buy better stims/train genius :P this is relativly simple to cast at 175, and even a kinda normal setup could cast with CI (for trox) .. just dont die. and with this, you wont :D

scratch that CI business, im selfing this kinda easily as trox. 325ish from basic setup, 31 from ql300 mining powerup and used a ql 208 massive cannon turret (+33 bm/mm) so i didint have to run around with chalice on.. didnt use re-ani cloak or fuzzy hood either, like plastic said :P i love this nano, 2300-2700 healing with +healing%... this rules.. also fun having 11k HP with the hp buff ^^

Can cast this at lvl 110 (solitus) with CI and 94 umbral. Lower level requirement! ><

My 165 doc will be able to self cast this after a few perk resets easily.

I wish the level lock was 150 instead.

The healing double proc comes from damage taken naturely, yes it's dorment in your ncu as a hp proc but will double heal if your taken damage as well as hp proc, solo at lvl 175 it will usualy base heal with % perks and a few items do around 1400. the highest I have heard this heal double procs to is around 1600 double tick. That I was from a lvl 205 dcotor getting ready for his next heal.
Nanomage Doctors, should cast this self easy at 175. best recommended for nm, cost effective, 2 Devalos sleeves, and Enduring brain and awaken chest/right arm, and your set.

Left arm, sorry * to amend above

can cast at 165 with current config of symbs and such with or without a CI

Ok after many tells.. it is now apparent CR is broke..

Duration 12 seconds on the hp is not working. so Ass pain nano is fine

at trox-doc lvl 175 castable with ci, 3-4 perks, 2 ari armor parts ql 100 and head/body/waist support symbs

*165

*175 omg ^^

hell, 6m oO

Funny comments here, really easy to selfcast this one, no matter what breed.

Yup, with Perks / AI gear (prolly not even necessary either) /LE research...if you CANT self this at 175, regardless of breed, you should prolly re-roll.

Atrox docs are totally viable, so forget the rantings near the top of this post.

Gurudee @ 2007-04-30 06:16
Yup, with Perks / AI gear (prolly not even necessary either) /LE research...if you CANT self this at 175, regardless of breed, you should prolly re-roll

Some weeks ago i saw a ~lvl 180 doc who needed ci AND!!! wrangle to cast this Oo.

hmm, maybe the doc was a hecknoob?
and yea, endgame nanopool doesnt matter anymore, your nano delta should take care of it easily
unless of course, again you're a hecknoob and are still using LE or CH at 205 ><

my doc has almost 900 bm/mm self at lvl 125, should be easy. too bad have to go 60 lvls with greater bloom

50 lvls even, silly me. And yes its easy to self cast, my agent could cast this in fp without nano skills maxed at 170 if it was castable in FP

Now with the new patches and items, ofc it will be way easier for toons of lower levels to cast CR than years ago when there arent. Hence, there was a discussion of whether it is possible to self it as soon as the toon hit level 175. My solitus doc at level 175 already has more than 1300 in BM and MM self, with bad symbs in too :( Maybe FC should consider lowering the "level 175" tag, but on the other hand, removing the tag will defeat the purpose of having it in the first place... whatever that might be.

20 pts away from casting this @lvl 141 with nanomage doc, just ado brain, others imps

with ci that is

i like the comment from 2004 talking about how docs can solo ado hecks at 175 hehe... i was doing them just last month at 150 =D

it's funny hehe

can agents mimic doc's sl heals by any chance? :o

i can cast this right now selfed as a 133 doc :)...full set of 220 combined officers ftw bish ahahahhaahaha

too bad you can't use it till 175 bish ahhhahah..ha

muahhaha, still cant be cast in FP ^_^

This must be one of those nanos with the highest density of retarted comments, particularly those from people who have yet to grasp the meaning of post dates. The icing on the cake would be the clowns complaining about lvl locks on nanos such as this one. Did you peabrains never consider that it actually makes sense that a mid TL4 toon should not be casting this? Level locks are not there to cut off your little epeen, they're meant to keep the evolution of gear (and with it twinking) in check, otherwise they'd constantly be busy revamping a shitload of nanos instead of doing important things for the game.

Lol, FC doing important things for the game. That's a good one.

Did this get ninja-nerfed? It doesn't seem to overwrite the HP buff every cast..