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Enfsandy
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asperine
Registered user BELGIUM Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 329 |
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dzdaddy
Title level 4 user UNITED STATES Joined: 29 Sep 2005 Posts: 175 |
http://auno.org/ao/db.php?id=30706 |
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Enfsandy
Registered user UNITED STATES Joined: 3 Sep 2005 Posts: 243 |
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anonymous @65.182.15.196
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Enfsandy
Registered user UNITED STATES Joined: 3 Sep 2005 Posts: 243 |
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dzdaddy
Title level 4 user UNITED STATES Joined: 29 Sep 2005 Posts: 175 |
why not /tell him/her in-game and ask? and if you post the process here, i'm sure you'd have a lot of folks in your debt. a 6-slot at lvl 9 is probably more of a novelty than anything, but at 20, it could prove useful. if you're reluctant to /tell him/her, let me know who it was and i'll be more than happy to pester them. that's the sort of stuff that makes AO so cool and i'd love to see how it was done. |
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Enfsandy
Registered user UNITED STATES Joined: 3 Sep 2005 Posts: 243 |
He hasn't been ingame lately ;) |
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asperine
Registered user BELGIUM Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 329 |
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dzdaddy
Title level 4 user UNITED STATES Joined: 29 Sep 2005 Posts: 175 |
rofl |
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Enfsandy
Registered user UNITED STATES Joined: 3 Sep 2005 Posts: 243 |
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asperine
Registered user BELGIUM Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 329 |
1 perk to start with. and the Eastern... nah, I won't say anything more. |
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Mongrol
Registered user UNITED KINGDOM Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 301 |
My brain hurts trying to think about how a lvl9 can get a x6 belt on, but i'm not experienced enough to say it couldn't be done. :D |
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asperine
Registered user BELGIUM Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 329 |
I will believe a lvl 9 who claims that he has a 6 belt when I can throw all 6 mochams at him without getting a warning that he has not enough NCU. And a few other thing to get to 360+ NCU. But not sure how I could check that he doesn't remove the buff immediatly after he got it. |
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Mongrol
Registered user UNITED KINGDOM Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 301 |
I have to agree about the screenshots too - but i was told about this lvl60 twink at Beast by a close friend and a bunch of other 'reliable' Beast raiders... it was dont to prove it could be done and to show off the twinking prowess of the l33t there really. I'm sure it can be done - i just wouldn't have a clue as to how :) (well some clues but no real idea - well some idea - just makes my brain hurt) :D |
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anonymous @204.39.48.8
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Enfsandy
Registered user UNITED STATES Joined: 3 Sep 2005 Posts: 243 |
Well all I know is that you have to get CL... and intel buffed using all the buffs you can get... |
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Rephikul
Registered user NETHERLANDS Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 45 |
50 + 20(general) + 70(imp) = 140 need: 210 50 + 20 + 80 + 100 + 70 = 320 (Treatment) -> ql 70 implants ql70 imp -> +70 comp lit nano skills: 50(base) + 20(gen) + 140(mo) + 130(wa) = 340 780 - 151 669 -> 801 402 + 72 + 63 = 537 402 + 97 + 88 = 587 402 + 97 + 106 = 605 402 + 115 + 106 = 623 402 + 115 + 124 = 641 435: 674 435 + 132 + 124 = 658 474: 713 474 + 143 + 137 = 754 474 + 151 + 146 = 771 474 + 151 + 157 = 782 -> needed 474 for base 51(base) + 20(gen) + 140(moch) + 131(wra) = 342 474 - 342 = 132 -> need ql 264 imps in (impossible :) I think there's no way to do it at lvl 9. In order to cast Trading Mogul we neet 781 nano... 51(base) + 20(general) + 140(mochie) + 131(general) + implant + plunder + devest = 781 Let's say we only have plunder + devest left unknown -> the rest must be at least 474 in general because: 474 + 97(Plunder Skill(Weak) Req.474) + 88(Devest Skill(Weak) Req.435) = 589 474 + 115(Plunder Skills (Minor) Req.572) + 106(Divest Skills (Minor) Req.526) = 695 474 + 132(Plunder Skills (Average) Req.669) + 137(Divest Skills (Lesser) Req.694) = 743 474 + 143(Plunder Skills (Lesser) Req.711) + 146(Divest Skills Req.728) = 763 474 + 151(Plunder Skills Req.745) + 146(Divest Skills Req.728) = 775 474 + 151(Plunder Skills Req.745) + 157(Divest Skills (Major) Req.769) = 786 If you start at 435-473, it shalls end somewhere 100 lower put those number back: 51(base) + 20(general) + 140(mochie) + 131(general) + implant = 474 -> implant = 132 since the drains and the comp buff use 2 nano type and all stuck at shiny -> we use 1 shiny for 1 type and bright + faded for the other -> implant = 50%(qlimp) -> qlimp = 132*2 = 264 ;P Try again at lvl 35, shall we :) improvement to base : 25*4 = 100 -> implant = 32 doing the sae trick with imp -> implant ql = 64 trader has 4/lvl improvement in treament -> treatment = 35*4 = 140 140(base) + 20(gen) + 100(clinic) + 80(sfa) + 70(med suit) = 410 more than enogh for ql 70 implants I'd say :D P.S. it might even doable with Bulk Trader (Req.456) at lvl 35 but i'm not quite sure. |
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froob
Title level 7 user Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 4 |
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Rephikul
Registered user NETHERLANDS Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 45 |
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Enfsandy
Registered user UNITED STATES Joined: 3 Sep 2005 Posts: 243 |
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Otrox
Title level 5 user Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 227 |
Me want..... |
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Rephikul
Registered user NETHERLANDS Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 45 |
The most guaranteed way is checking shopping channel ^^ The second most one is from Trash King >.< The third one is chest luck ;P |
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asperine
Registered user BELGIUM Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 329 |
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Mongrol
Registered user UNITED KINGDOM Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 301 |
Yup agreed - or if you have cash buy one :) |
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Cheysey
Title level 7 user NORWAY Joined: 29 Mar 2003 Posts: 771 |
50+20+70=140 complit at lvl9 +160 from second buff is enough to get 6slott belt inn... i think the only problem will be ncu... but 200 NCU is possible at that lvl im sure. that's enough for two mochams... drain up as far as u can. cast complit buff... and then u got enough complit to change to your 6slot belt. 140+160=300 now i may be stoopid.. but i think this is possible......... nanoskills 50+50(implants)+20 +140= 260... drain up another 100-120... and wrangle the rest for the complittbuff.. NCU is the hard part |
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lonsefus
Registered user Joined: 3 Jan 2006 Posts: 4 |
Step one is maximize NCU. NCU is a must for any twinking you do. I was able to get 255 available before attempting the 6 slot. I used Collar (30 NCU), Carb armor (ql46), Rebuilt Wrist NCU (ql80 gives 9 NCU each), Windchaser Mother of Pearl (this was good for 3 NCU, 10 INT which adds to CL, and 25 Max Nano), Ring of NB (20 NCU), and of course a 5 slot with 5 QL106 NCU (29 each). In addition I used the Fixer Perk Grid NCU extention for 10 more and a sapphire filigree ring for 4. I believe that is all. It's tough to remember all the items without AO running ;) Now, the other thing to prepare for putting the 6 slot on is to maximize CL. There are lots of ways to get that extra little bit. One formula to remember is that 4 INT = 1 CL. So, if you can get NS you get 5 more CL. I actually did not use NS to get the 6 slot on. I instead optioned to conserve NCU for Lend Nano:250 as I needed 755 available to cast Bulk Trader. Here is a list of items that can add those few extra CL you may need: Grey Suit +1Cl per piece, 6 in all (used all 6 put on last, after Bulk Trader) Ring of Presence +1 Cl, can wear 2 (used 2, also last) Senior Omni-Op Coat +1 to +3 (Ql44) depending on how much you wanna work it. I used a Ql26 for +2. And of course implants. I used a Ql85 head for +48, Ql75 eye for +26, and Ql75 hand for +17. With my base amount and comp attributes running (+12 Int = +3CL) I had enough to put on the QL162 6 Slot (354 CL). Other items that can be helpful for CL. Head Skinchip - Temperature Modification +1 to +3 at low levels. I did have a Ql 37 that added +3 on, but found that the extra NCU from carb was more useful. Uncle Bazzit Diplomatic +2Cl (hard to find low ql's) Now for the actual process. This is how I did it. There may be other ways, but this is what worked for me. Step 1 - FP trader (many ways to get there, I'll leave it up to you to decide if you want wrangle. mochams or ? to get you there) Step 2 - PM & TS Mochams Step 3 - Comp Lit Expertise Step 4 - Comp Attributes Step 5 - Lend Nano:250 Step 6 - 132 Wrangle Step 7 - Deprive Skills (Advanced) Step 8 - Ransack Skills (Advanced) Step 9 - Remove TS Mocham and get SI Mocham Step 10 - Cast Bulk Trader Step 11 - Remove 3 NCU's Step 12 - Re-Cast Bulk Trader Step 13 - Put on Grey Suit and Rings of Presence Step 14 - Remove last 2 NCU's and right click that 6 slot Now as you will learn from trying this is its all about timing. You need to have your drains and the wrangle running to cast BT. You will not have enough time to remove all the NCU and put in the belt, so you remove 3 NCU, then re-cast BT. Remove the other and right click the belt. The timing is tricky, but can be done. For those of you trying to twink like this, remember to have patience. You may end up starting over several times. It took me 3 tries to get the timing right, but I did get it on. I am now up to 320 NCU on a level 13 and still twinkin'. I could get more, but need to roll NCU's. When I am done twinkin' or have time, I will try to write a more comprehensive list of Twink Items that are useful, as well as how to accomplish some of these things (like getting the Collar on). Until then good luck with your twinks! PS - For all you low level twinks (lvl 1 -5) Level1 on RK2 is looking for some opponents!! |
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lonsefus
Registered user Joined: 3 Jan 2006 Posts: 4 |
-Lons |
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Ayngel
Title level 7 user UNITED STATES Joined: 30 Dec 2005 Posts: 51 |
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dzdaddy
Title level 4 user UNITED STATES Joined: 29 Sep 2005 Posts: 175 |
it's easy enough to laugh and call names and make incredible claims (cool if they're true), but how 'bout some facts? Are you using a process similar to what Ionsefus outlined? if not, how 'bout sharing your knowledge with those of us less gifted/blessed/endowed? now, THAT would be worth posting about. |
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Enfsandy
Registered user UNITED STATES Joined: 3 Sep 2005 Posts: 243 |
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Ofex
Registered user UNITED STATES Joined: 2 Jan 2006 Posts: 40 |
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Cheysey
Title level 7 user NORWAY Joined: 29 Mar 2003 Posts: 771 |
sure it's 3-4years old exploit now.. not ingame anymore.. had to do with tutoring.. could get as mouch complit as u wanted |
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asperine
Registered user BELGIUM Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 329 |
shame that your first post at Auno is this one... grats on becoming a registered user ! (btw, with AI it is indeed a lot easier to do things like this. I didn't think about doing this at level 9, with the first alien perk, because at level 10 you also have a regular perk.) |
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Mongrol
Registered user UNITED KINGDOM Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 301 |
find mine quite useful :P :D |
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Cheysey
Title level 7 user NORWAY Joined: 29 Mar 2003 Posts: 771 |
or NCU even? dont get how AI will help u |
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Enfsandy
Registered user UNITED STATES Joined: 3 Sep 2005 Posts: 243 |
Uhh, Not sure, but as a trader I think there is prob an Alien perk that gives cl. |
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Cheysey
Title level 7 user NORWAY Joined: 29 Mar 2003 Posts: 771 |
and at lvl9 u have 0 normal perks either.. so dont realy matter if u are froob or not for this i guess |
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feat
Title level 7 user UNITED STATES Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 28 |
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Enfsandy
Registered user UNITED STATES Joined: 3 Sep 2005 Posts: 243 |
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asperine
Registered user BELGIUM Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 329 |
forgot to put /sarcasm on and /sarcasm off at start and end |
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dzdaddy
Title level 4 user UNITED STATES Joined: 29 Sep 2005 Posts: 175 |
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asperine
Registered user BELGIUM Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 329 |
/sarcasm on, not-believer on but AI perk gives +1 agility and so as you see you can get better implants in with AI after lvl 5 already !!! /sarcasm off, believer on that better ? |
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Ayngel
Title level 7 user UNITED STATES Joined: 30 Dec 2005 Posts: 51 |
I'm all for sharing knowledge in the game. Unless of course it's taken me 1+ month worth of work to accomplish (with planning, searching for the exactly right equipment, camping, etc). Trust me when I say this guys...if -I- can figure out a way to do it, each and everyone of you can too... |
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Mongrol
Registered user UNITED KINGDOM Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 301 |
No prob Ayngel.. :) And yeh the general consensus is that this is indeed possible/probable.ca do... im not the games greatest twinker so i'll defer to others that are. Does make me want to roll a test lvl 1 char to try it out tho - what breed would you suggest to be the 'best' to be twinkable for this? |
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Ayngel
Title level 7 user UNITED STATES Joined: 30 Dec 2005 Posts: 51 |
I went Trox ^_^ |
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Voriuste
Title level 7 user AUSTRALIA Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 178 |
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Cheysey
Title level 7 user NORWAY Joined: 29 Mar 2003 Posts: 771 |
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Cheysey
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level1
Title level 7 user Joined: 10 Dec 2005 Posts: 20 |
As for breed for 6er on lvl 9 , I'd go with Nanomage just to wear Shades of Lucubration. For a level 1 twink (such as myself) go with Opifex or Nanomage. Agility is your best friend for low lvl twinkin but nanomage allows u to wear shades - tough choice. learn from my mistake - dont go solitus. To prove how much ncu one has is tiresome but i tend to do it this way - first i get behemoth which visually makes me larger. than i go 'head and get gsf which makes me supah fast. then some1 can cast mocham or other high ncu cost spell on me. another way would be to add mochams in pm / ts plus a 131 wrangle to have the trader twink cast a super high lvl wrangle on u. 300-350 ncu is way harder to fill up than the 170 or so u will get on a level 1 twink, but you get the idea. Any disbeleivers send level1 a tell on RK2 - or anyone who wants help twinking can do the same. If you ever see a character named level9 oon RK2 that'll be me gettin a 6 slot belt on - or trying to. I'll repost if i actually do it. |
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Flashhh
Registered user CANADA Joined: 22 Jun 2005 Posts: 5 |
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Cheysey
Title level 7 user NORWAY Joined: 29 Mar 2003 Posts: 771 |
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Ayngel
Title level 7 user UNITED STATES Joined: 30 Dec 2005 Posts: 51 |
You only ruined your fun by thinking it's now possible. Doing it now is just a matter of timing... It's still VERY possible... |
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asperine
Registered user BELGIUM Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 329 |
Your idea of having fun thinking a month about how to do this is not Flashhh'es idea of having fun |
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Voriuste
Title level 7 user AUSTRALIA Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 178 |
*sigh* Just a few days ago, on the current patch, i successfully hotswapped a belt, had CL buffing nanos running, removed NCU, recasted, removed last NCU and hotswapped the belt... Like a punk. |
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Ayngel
Title level 7 user UNITED STATES Joined: 30 Dec 2005 Posts: 51 |
I had a really "caustic" comment prepared (awesome word usage, dz ^_^), but I think I'll just pass. For him to just come out and say "sry for ruining ur fun but its not possible anymore :P" is just ignorant. I guess I just don't suffer fools lightly. But this is beating the proverbial dead horse, so... I'ma let it go.. |
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dzdaddy
Title level 4 user UNITED STATES Joined: 29 Sep 2005 Posts: 175 |
by the way, tried this belt hot swap with rebuffing of running nanos (NCU usage was 78/24 - 78 NCU used of 24 total, after removing first 3 NCUs) on low-level toon and it worked for me too |
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asperine
Registered user BELGIUM Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 329 |
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Flashhh
Registered user CANADA Joined: 22 Jun 2005 Posts: 5 |
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anonymous @216.46.98.249
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first of all: dude, you need to calm down a bit. No one can hurt you here, these are just words and opinions. Next: the numbers are open to interpretation and until you've tried it, you might want to be a little more careful about what you say/post. as noted in my last email, you CAN make the belt swap work - i've done it, Ionsefus has done it, plenty of people have. The 'timing' is to get the belt swap started before your Bulk Trader, or whatever CL-enhancing nano you have running, expires. If you left-click the new belt in your inventory, the equipped belt will start its de-equip cycle and once it's off, the new belt will automatically start its equip cycle. The CL-enhancing nano can expire while the old belt is still de-equipping and the new belt will still equip. try it for yourself and have some fun :) |
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Flashhh
Registered user CANADA Joined: 22 Jun 2005 Posts: 5 |
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Ayngel
Title level 7 user UNITED STATES Joined: 30 Dec 2005 Posts: 51 |
I'm not sure which game you're playing, but I took my belt off my level 9 toon last night and was able to re-equip it in time before BT ran out. The time delay on my 6x says 60-seconds... As for the idiot name-calling.... *works on her anger-management issues and remains calm* |
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Ayngel
Title level 7 user UNITED STATES Joined: 30 Dec 2005 Posts: 51 |
I care? I have zero patience for people that say something isn't possible anymore and then turn around and refuse to learn how it is possible. Ignorance is the most easilly cured illness. |
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Ayngel
Title level 7 user UNITED STATES Joined: 30 Dec 2005 Posts: 51 |
Also, on a helpful note...you can still "hot-swap" belts (ie. taking the 6x and just placing it onto your 5x/4x without de-equipping it). Dunno if you took that into consideration or not |
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Ayngel
Title level 7 user UNITED STATES Joined: 30 Dec 2005 Posts: 51 |
Ok, I just can't hold back...that post was just FLOODED with stupidity.. *forgets her anger-management* I'm the stupid idiot? Dude.... When your balls drop or you actually manage to learn that thing called manners, then come talk to me. Until then, kiss off. I don't know what kind of "twinker" you are, but apparently you just plain ol' suck at it. Saying you have to de-equip it first.. lol Dumbass. HOT-SWAP <-- new words for your ignorant vocabulary. Learn the mechanics of the game before you start hurling insults at people that actually know what they're doing. And I'm the "Stupid Idiot".... lol right... |
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dzdaddy
Title level 4 user UNITED STATES Joined: 29 Sep 2005 Posts: 175 |
but seriously, Flashhh, Ayngel's right, you know. At least about the hot-swap thing. the next time you're on, give it a try and let's put this thing to rest already. |
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Flashhh
Registered user CANADA Joined: 22 Jun 2005 Posts: 5 |
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Flashhh
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Mongrol
Registered user UNITED KINGDOM Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 301 |
Agreed Dz. wtb Thread closed button. :D |
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Arrone
Title level 7 user UNITED STATES Joined: 11 Jan 2005 Posts: 204 |
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bartje
Title level 7 user NETHERLANDS Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 585 |
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bartje
Title level 7 user NETHERLANDS Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 585 |
mean 6x offc ^_^ |
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dzdaddy
Title level 4 user UNITED STATES Joined: 29 Sep 2005 Posts: 175 |
whether readers believe or not is of no consequence. The only time it would really matter is if you were trying to do it yourself and if that's the case, follow the prescribed steps and verify it for yourself. Images can be doctored, claims can be embellished, but your personal experience cannot be falsified. yet. :) |
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